{"id":1179,"date":"2003-05-09T19:34:41","date_gmt":"2003-05-10T09:34:41","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/michaelhans.com\/eclecticism\/2003\/05\/10\/norad-um-nope\/"},"modified":"2019-12-06T08:39:32","modified_gmt":"2019-12-06T16:39:32","slug":"norad-um-nope","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/michaelhans.com\/eclecticism\/2003\/05\/09\/norad-um-nope\/","title":{"rendered":"NORAD? Um, nope!"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class='__iawmlf-post-loop-links' style='display:none;' data-iawmlf-post-links='[{&quot;id&quot;:14692,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http:\\\/\\\/atrios.blogspot.com\\\/2003_05_04_atrios_archive.html#200268304&quot;,&quot;archived_href&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;redirect_href&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;checks&quot;:[],&quot;broken&quot;:false,&quot;last_checked&quot;:null,&quot;process&quot;:&quot;new&quot;},{&quot;id&quot;:14693,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http:\\\/\\\/www.cooperativeresearch.net\\\/timeline\\\/main\\\/essayaninterestingday.html&quot;,&quot;archived_href&quot;:&quot;https:\\\/\\\/web-wp.archive.org\\\/web\\\/20230312012531\\\/http:\\\/\\\/www.cooperativeresearch.net\\\/timeline\\\/main\\\/essayaninterestingday.html&quot;,&quot;redirect_href&quot;:&quot;https:\\\/\\\/hoax.com&quot;,&quot;checks&quot;:[{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-04-11 08:51:33&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:503},{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-04-15 23:30:34&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:503}],&quot;broken&quot;:false,&quot;last_checked&quot;:{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-04-15 23:30:34&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:503},&quot;process&quot;:&quot;done&quot;},{&quot;id&quot;:14694,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http:\\\/\\\/www.cooperativeresearch.net&quot;,&quot;archived_href&quot;:&quot;https:\\\/\\\/web-wp.archive.org\\\/web\\\/20260313015326\\\/https:\\\/\\\/cooperativeresearch.net\\\/&quot;,&quot;redirect_href&quot;:&quot;https:\\\/\\\/cooperativeresearch.net&quot;,&quot;checks&quot;:[{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-04-11 08:51:29&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:206},{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-04-15 23:30:36&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:206}],&quot;broken&quot;:false,&quot;last_checked&quot;:{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-04-15 23:30:36&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:206},&quot;process&quot;:&quot;done&quot;},{&quot;id&quot;:14695,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http:\\\/\\\/www.cooperativeresearch.net\\\/timeline\\\/main\\\/dayof911.html&quot;,&quot;archived_href&quot;:&quot;https:\\\/\\\/web-wp.archive.org\\\/web\\\/20210314184448\\\/http:\\\/\\\/www.cooperativeresearch.net\\\/timeline\\\/main\\\/dayof911.html&quot;,&quot;redirect_href&quot;:&quot;https:\\\/\\\/hoax.com&quot;,&quot;checks&quot;:[{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-04-11 08:51:28&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:503},{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-04-15 23:30:33&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:503}],&quot;broken&quot;:false,&quot;last_checked&quot;:{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-04-15 23:30:33&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:503},&quot;process&quot;:&quot;done&quot;},{&quot;id&quot;:14696,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http:\\\/\\\/www.amazon.com\\\/exec\\\/obidos\\\/ASIN\\\/0792838467\\\/djwudicom-20&quot;,&quot;archived_href&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;redirect_href&quot;:&quot;https:\\\/\\\/www.amazon.com\\\/exec\\\/obidos\\\/ASIN\\\/0792838467\\\/djwudicom-20&quot;,&quot;checks&quot;:[],&quot;broken&quot;:false,&quot;last_checked&quot;:null,&quot;process&quot;:&quot;done&quot;}]'><\/div>\n<p>There&#8217;s a very interesting site that I found <a href=\"http:\/\/atrios.blogspot.com\/2003_05_04_atrios_archive.html#200268304\" title=\"9\/11 timeline\">via Atrios<\/a> that, among other things, has a very comprehensive look at the events of Sept.\u00a011^th^ in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cooperativeresearch.net\/timeline\/main\/essayaninterestingday.html\" title=\"An interesting day\">this timeline<\/a>. They seem to have done a good job of piecing together the various news reports about the events of that day, comparing them and questioning the many inconsistencies that exist.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/michaelhans.com\/eclecticism\/graphics\/2003\/05\/graphics\/norad.jpg\" title=\"NORAD? I don't think so...\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"NORAD? I don't think so...\" src=\"https:\/\/michaelhans.com\/eclecticism\/graphics\/2003\/05\/graphics\/norad-thumb.jpg\" width=\"150\" height=\"68\" align=\"right\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>From there, I started browsing through the rest of the source site, the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cooperativeresearch.net\/\" title=\"Center for Cooperative Research\">Center for Cooperative Research<\/a>. Looking at another page on the site, a more straightforward <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cooperativeresearch.net\/timeline\/main\/dayof911.html\" title=\"September 11 minute by minute\">timeline of Sept.\u00a011^th^<\/a>, imagine my surprise when I saw a picture captioned &#8216;NORAD&#8217;s war room in Cheyenne, Wyoming,&#8217; that, rather than being a picture of the Norad control room, is actually a screen shot from the 1983 adventure\/suspense film <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/ASIN\/0792838467\/djwudicom-20\" title=\"Wargames\">Wargames<\/a>!<\/p>\n<p>As important as I think it is that we continue to investigate the events of Sept.\u00a011^th^, and the events surrounding it, when a site does something like this &#8212; no matter how good their overall intentions may be &#8212; it only serves to damage their credibility. The webmaster of the Center for Cooperative Research should either replace that photo with a real photo of NORAD (if such a photo exists in the private sector), or simply remove the Wargames photo. Leaving it there can only damage how seriously people take their site, no matter how much effort they&#8217;ve put into their research.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/michaelhans.com\/eclecticism\/graphics\/2003\/05\/graphics\/norad2.jpg\" title=\"NORAD? Probably.\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"NORAD? Probably.\" src=\"https:\/\/michaelhans.com\/eclecticism\/graphics\/2003\/05\/graphics\/norad2-thumb.jpg\" width=\"150\" height=\"68\" align=\"left\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Update: I e-mailed my concerns about the picture to the webmaster, and they&#8217;ve replaced the former photo with one from Discover magazine. While I&#8217;ve never been in NORAD, and therefore can&#8217;t assert to the photo&#8217;s accuracy firsthand, it does look far more likely to be the real thing (more realistic graphics on the monitors, more realistic computer terminals, less flashy overall &#8212; and I don&#8217;t recognize it from a movie!).<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Looking at another page on the site, a more straightforward timeline of Sept. 11<sup>th<\/sup>, imagine my surprise when I saw a picture captioned &#8216;Norad&#8217;s war room in Cheyenne, Wyoming,&#8217; that, rather than being a picture of the Norad control room, is actually a screen shot from the 1983 adventure\/suspense film Wargames!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[2042,2037],"tags":[14,2161],"class_list":["post-1179","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-politics","category-tv-and-films","tag-politics","tag-wargames"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/michaelhans.com\/eclecticism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1179","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/michaelhans.com\/eclecticism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/michaelhans.com\/eclecticism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/michaelhans.com\/eclecticism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/michaelhans.com\/eclecticism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1179"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/michaelhans.com\/eclecticism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1179\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/michaelhans.com\/eclecticism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1179"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/michaelhans.com\/eclecticism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1179"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/michaelhans.com\/eclecticism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1179"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}