{"id":3304,"date":"2005-05-05T21:31:51","date_gmt":"2005-05-06T04:31:51","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/michaelhans.com\/eclecticism\/2005\/05\/05\/the-problem-with-time-travel\/"},"modified":"2019-12-13T14:40:34","modified_gmt":"2019-12-13T22:40:34","slug":"the-problem-with-time-travel","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/michaelhans.com\/eclecticism\/2005\/05\/05\/the-problem-with-time-travel\/","title":{"rendered":"The problem with time travel&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Yes, <em>the<\/em> problem. Because there is only one. ;)<\/p>\n<p>I don&#8217;t even remember how we got on the subject, but something in a conversation with Prairie last night got me rambling on about the biggest problem I have with time travel stories. As fun as they are, there&#8217;s always been one thing that bugged me about them &#8212; though, admittedly, it&#8217;s most likely because in the majority of instances, worrying about it would essentially negate the possibility of the story working at all.<\/p>\n<p>Essentially, it&#8217;s that while what makes the story fun is the ability to travel temporally, nobody ever seems to take into account the need to travel spatially as well.<\/p>\n<p>The Earth rotates at a little over <a href=\"http:\/\/imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov\/docs\/ask_astro\/answers\/970401c.html\" title=\"Speed of the Earth's Rotation\">1000 miles per hour<\/a>. It also orbits the sun at around <a href=\"http:\/\/imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov\/docs\/ask_astro\/answers\/970401c.html\" title=\"Speed of the Earth's Rotation\">67,000 miles per hour<\/a>. Our solar system is moving through the galaxy at approximately <a href=\"http:\/\/solar-center.stanford.edu\/FAQ\/Qsolsysspeed.html\" title=\"What is the speed of the Solar System?\">447,387 miles per hour<\/a>. Our galaxy is moving at roughly <a href=\"http:\/\/hypertextbook.com\/facts\/1999\/PatriciaKong.shtml\" title=\"Speed of the Milky Way in Space\">1.34 million miles an hour<\/a> through the universe. So, assuming that those are all the variables we have to work with (that is, assuming that time is a constant within our universe, and that there is nothing &#8220;outside&#8221; our universe to measure its relative speed), we travel (very) roughly 6,679,393,200 miles per second relative to our universe.<\/p>\n<p>So, were I to invent a time machine and move myself one second back in time, I&#8217;d end up popping back into the normal time stream somewhere more than six and a half <em>billion<\/em> miles away from where I started! Needless to say, I&#8217;d be incalculably lucky to end up arriving anywhere that would allow me to survive &#8212; most likely, I&#8217;d just end up floating out in the vacuum of space somewhere.<\/p>\n<p>Any feasible time machine, then, would somehow have to ensure that the traveler was able to move temporally while remaining stationary spatially <em>relative to their starting point<\/em>, and not to the universe as a whole.<\/p>\n<p>Tricky.<\/p>\n<p>Not that that keeps me from enjoying time travel stories anyway, of course. 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