{"id":654,"date":"2002-08-28T10:50:39","date_gmt":"2002-08-28T18:50:39","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/michaelhans.com\/eclecticism\/2002\/08\/28\/portugal-sounds-nice\/"},"modified":"2019-11-27T13:08:50","modified_gmt":"2019-11-27T21:08:50","slug":"portugal-sounds-nice","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/michaelhans.com\/eclecticism\/2002\/08\/28\/portugal-sounds-nice\/","title":{"rendered":"Portugal sounds nice&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class='__iawmlf-post-loop-links' style='display:none;' data-iawmlf-post-links='[{&quot;id&quot;:9201,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http:\\\/\\\/www.metafilter.com&quot;,&quot;archived_href&quot;:&quot;https:\\\/\\\/web-wp.archive.org\\\/web\\\/20260310020235\\\/https:\\\/\\\/www.metafilter.com\\\/&quot;,&quot;redirect_href&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;checks&quot;:[{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-03-10 17:21:01&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:200},{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-03-23 07:40:06&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:200},{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-03-26 10:49:03&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:200},{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-03-30 04:02:38&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:200},{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-04-06 17:54:42&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:200},{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-04-10 20:38:07&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:200},{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-04-16 01:35:43&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:200},{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-04-24 12:20:37&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:200},{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-04-28 05:32:17&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:200},{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-05-02 02:49:54&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:200},{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-05-07 23:04:24&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:200}],&quot;broken&quot;:false,&quot;last_checked&quot;:{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-05-07 23:04:24&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:200},&quot;process&quot;:&quot;done&quot;},{&quot;id&quot;:15949,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http:\\\/\\\/www.orange-today.co.uk\\\/news\\\/story\\\/sm_653344.html?menu=news.quirkies&quot;,&quot;archived_href&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;redirect_href&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;checks&quot;:[],&quot;broken&quot;:false,&quot;last_checked&quot;:null,&quot;process&quot;:&quot;done&quot;},{&quot;id&quot;:15950,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http:\\\/\\\/www.metafilter.com\\\/user.mefi\\\/1250&quot;,&quot;archived_href&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;redirect_href&quot;:&quot;https:\\\/\\\/www.metafilter.com\\\/user.mefi\\\/1250&quot;,&quot;checks&quot;:[],&quot;broken&quot;:false,&quot;last_checked&quot;:null,&quot;process&quot;:&quot;done&quot;},{&quot;id&quot;:15951,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http:\\\/\\\/www.metafilter.com\\\/mefi\\\/19302#325863&quot;,&quot;archived_href&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;redirect_href&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;checks&quot;:[],&quot;broken&quot;:false,&quot;last_checked&quot;:null,&quot;process&quot;:&quot;new&quot;},{&quot;id&quot;:15952,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http:\\\/\\\/www.metafilter.com\\\/user.mefi\\\/10947&quot;,&quot;archived_href&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;redirect_href&quot;:&quot;https:\\\/\\\/www.metafilter.com\\\/user.mefi\\\/10947&quot;,&quot;checks&quot;:[],&quot;broken&quot;:false,&quot;last_checked&quot;:null,&quot;process&quot;:&quot;done&quot;},{&quot;id&quot;:15953,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http:\\\/\\\/www.metafilter.com\\\/mefi\\\/19302#325908&quot;,&quot;archived_href&quot;:&quot;https:\\\/\\\/web-wp.archive.org\\\/web\\\/20080907050349\\\/http:\\\/\\\/www.metafilter.com\\\/mefi\\\/19302&quot;,&quot;redirect_href&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;checks&quot;:[{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-03-14 02:04:17&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:200}],&quot;broken&quot;:false,&quot;last_checked&quot;:{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-03-14 02:04:17&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:200},&quot;process&quot;:&quot;done&quot;},{&quot;id&quot;:15954,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http:\\\/\\\/www.metafilter.com\\\/mefi\\\/19302#325933&quot;,&quot;archived_href&quot;:&quot;https:\\\/\\\/web-wp.archive.org\\\/web\\\/20080907050349\\\/http:\\\/\\\/www.metafilter.com\\\/mefi\\\/19302&quot;,&quot;redirect_href&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;checks&quot;:[{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-03-14 02:04:18&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:200}],&quot;broken&quot;:false,&quot;last_checked&quot;:{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-03-14 02:04:18&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:200},&quot;process&quot;:&quot;done&quot;}]'><\/div>\n<p>This is one of the posts I lost in the crash &#8212; but I remembered that I&#8217;d had it up, and went looking for the original links.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.metafilter.com\/\" title=\"MetaFilter\">MetaFilter<\/a> had a link up to a story about a man who refused to stop having sex with a woman in a public pool <a href=\"http:\/\/www.orange-today.co.uk\/news\/story\/sm_653344.html?menu=news.quirkies\" title=\"Orange Today:  Man refuses to finish pool sex until he provides satisfaction\">until she reached orgasm<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>This led to an entertaining little discussion, starting with <a href=\"http:\/\/www.metafilter.com\/user.mefi\/1250\" title=\"beth's MeFi profile\">beth<\/a>&#8216;s assertion that &#8220;&#8230;just for the record not every woman in the world wants an orgasm <a href=\"http:\/\/www.metafilter.com\/mefi\/19302#325863\" title=\"MeFi: beth's comment\">every time<\/a>&#8220;. Things bounced merrily along for a while, until <a href=\"http:\/\/www.metafilter.com\/user.mefi\/10947\" title=\"MiguelCardoso's MeFi profile\">Miguel Cardoso<\/a> posted the following entertaining and fascinating rundown of Porgugese sexual customs.<\/p>\n<p>(Liberal use of &#8216;the F word&#8217; follows, though [IMHO] not in an offensive manner.)<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>\n    Why do you think it&#8217;s so common for women to fake orgasms?\n  <\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>  I don&#8217;t know if all women fake orgasms. In Portugal, for instance, it would be considered silly and slightly demeaning for the man &#8212; as if he somehow needed that sort of reassurance.<\/p>\n<p>  Sex is a lot more honest here. If you come, you come. If you don&#8217;t, you don&#8217;t. No big deal. There&#8217;s certainly no discussion afterwards about &#8220;how good it was for you&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>  On the other hand, if the woman wants to come she won&#8217;t accept not coming and will cajole and indeed badger her lover (caring nothing for his feelings or fatigue) to keep on going or do whatever&#8217;s needed for her to finally come.<\/p>\n<p>  Men accept this as part of the deal and do their best to pretend they enjoy it, to help their partners&#8217; concentration and get the damn thing over and done with. So if anyone fakes anything, it&#8217;s the men. Though giggles are frequent and distracting, specially when it&#8217;s physically obvious the man&#8217;s ardour is diminished.<\/p>\n<p>  Mostly, though, people just enjoy the sex. Coming just for the sake of coming is considered a waste of resources and opportunity. Men often give up on a second orgasm when women finally reach their first. Actually they save it for a bit later. Fucking and love-making are far too enjoyable and playful.<\/p>\n<p>  There are a lot of different names for love-making. Here are some:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>fodinha (literally &#8220;itsy-bitsy fuck&#8221;):<\/strong> a sweet, quickish and essentially selfish fuck, undertaken just to assuage a sudden horniness on the part of one of the two lovers. It&#8217;s a letting-off of steam, generally because there&#8217;ll be a better opportunity later, and ends when the horny partner comes.<\/li>\n<li><strong>foduncha (literally &#8220;chunky fuck&#8221;):<\/strong> a &#8220;see what happens&#8221; fuck, where both are keen but not desperate. It ends when whoever comes first comes.<\/li>\n<li><strong>fodinha obrigada (literally &#8220;thank you fuck&#8221;):<\/strong> it&#8217;s a request fuck. Whoever&#8217;s eager asks for a compassionate gift-fuck. The partner providing the gift doesn&#8217;t even try to enjoy it &#8211; that&#8217;s part of the fun. Being a gift, these favours are counted and &#8220;owed&#8221;.<\/li>\n<li><strong>fodinha &oacute;-&oacute; (literally &#8220;bye-byes fuck&#8221;):<\/strong> a fuck exclusively destined to provoke sleep. This one demands mutual orgasms or extreme tiredness, whatever comes first.<\/li>\n<li><strong>foda (literally &#8220;fuck&#8221;):<\/strong> the real thing, violent and tender, long and profoundly satisfying to both.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>  There&#8217;s certainly no shame in wanting it badly or not wanting it particularly, in coming inadvertently or not being able to come after much effort. It&#8217;s fun and it makes for a very varied and, above all, friendly, accomplice-style sex life.<\/p>\n<p>  So I think I know why the Italian guy kept going. Because his lover would have made his life hell if he&#8217;d have caved in. Specially if being watched was part of her pleasure.<\/p>\n<p>  Well that&#8217;s a comment I certainly didn&#8217;t think I&#8217;d ever make&#8230;\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&#8212; Miguel Cardoso, on <a href=\"http:\/\/www.metafilter.com\/mefi\/19302#325908\" title=\"MeFi comment\">MeFi<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>\n    So, how does one pronounce &#8220;&oacute;-&oacute;&#8221;?\n  <\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>  it&#8217;s pronounced &#8220;aw aw&#8221; and it&#8217;s a childish, affectionate way of saying sleep, onomatopeic for snoring. It&#8217;s also the lullaby sound used to put babies to sleep.<\/p>\n<p>  While I&#8217;m at it, here are some other local variants. I should add that none of these are rude or obscene &#8212; they&#8217;re just expressions for shared experiences, used by couples and in everyday conversation between men, women or women and men together.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>fodinha bom dia or fodinha xi-xi (literally &#8220;good morning fuck&#8221; or &#8220;wee wee fuck&#8221;):<\/strong> A lazy, opportunistic fuck, carried out to benefit from waking erections. Bladder pressure is considered to increase pleasure for both men and women.<\/li>\n<li><strong>fodinha como-quem-n&auml;o-quer-a-coisa (literally &#8220;a seemingly reluctant fuck, undertaken as if it wasn&#8217;t really desired&#8221;):<\/strong> a &#8220;oh come here!&#8221; fuck, always carried out just before leaving home, generally due to one or both lovers being attractively dressed. There are strict rules not to muss up make-up or outfits, so it&#8217;s quite a surgical affair. Very sexy, though and it makes the night last longer as you&#8217;re not in such a rush to get back home again.<\/li>\n<li><strong>fodinha molhada(literally &#8220;wet, slippery fuck&#8221;):<\/strong> this is essentially a drunken fuck, with little expectation of orgasm. It&#8217;s undertaken as a form of cuddling, with lots of kissing, groping and talking dirty but no real consummation. It often lasts for hours and is very sexy in a Tao sort of way. Just desserts are postponed till morning. [See fodinha bom dia].<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>  I can&#8217;t believe every culture doesn&#8217;t have exact equivalents. The only difference may be the complicity &#8212; man and woman (or whatever) are essentially friends and conspirators and enjoy the dirty fun of honesty, laughter and downright selfishness, lust and greed.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&#8212; Miguel Cardoso, on <a href=\"http:\/\/www.metafilter.com\/mefi\/19302#325933\" title=\"Mefi comment\">MeFi<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This led to an entertaining little discussion, starting with beth&#8217;s assertion that &#8216;&#8230;just for the record not every woman in the world wants an orgasm every time&#8217;. 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