{"id":794,"date":"2002-12-04T11:08:12","date_gmt":"2002-12-04T19:08:12","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/michaelhans.com\/eclecticism\/2002\/12\/04\/ya-win-some-ya-lose-some\/"},"modified":"2019-12-02T14:49:51","modified_gmt":"2019-12-02T22:49:51","slug":"ya-win-some-ya-lose-some","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/michaelhans.com\/eclecticism\/2002\/12\/04\/ya-win-some-ya-lose-some\/","title":{"rendered":"Ya win some, ya lose some"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class='__iawmlf-post-loop-links' style='display:none;' data-iawmlf-post-links='[{&quot;id&quot;:15671,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http:\\\/\\\/216.239.33.100\\\/search?q=cache:XfkktO9iLaEC:www.citizencorps.gov\\\/tips.html+Operation+TIPS&amp;hl=en&amp;ie=UTF-8&quot;,&quot;archived_href&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;redirect_href&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;checks&quot;:[],&quot;broken&quot;:false,&quot;last_checked&quot;:null,&quot;process&quot;:&quot;done&quot;},{&quot;id&quot;:15672,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http:\\\/\\\/www.wired.com\\\/news\\\/politics\\\/0,1283,56701,00.html&quot;,&quot;archived_href&quot;:&quot;https:\\\/\\\/web-wp.archive.org\\\/web\\\/20081010154936\\\/http:\\\/\\\/wired.com\\\/news\\\/politics\\\/0,1283,56701,00.html&quot;,&quot;redirect_href&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;checks&quot;:[{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-03-13 21:17:43&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:404},{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-04-06 06:19:49&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:404}],&quot;broken&quot;:false,&quot;last_checked&quot;:{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-04-06 06:19:49&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:404},&quot;process&quot;:&quot;done&quot;},{&quot;id&quot;:15673,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http:\\\/\\\/www.thememoryhole.org\\\/policestate\\\/tips-changes.htm&quot;,&quot;archived_href&quot;:&quot;https:\\\/\\\/web-wp.archive.org\\\/web\\\/20100513040837\\\/http:\\\/\\\/www.thememoryhole.org\\\/policestate\\\/tips-changes.htm&quot;,&quot;redirect_href&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;checks&quot;:[{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-03-13 21:17:45&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:404},{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-04-06 06:19:52&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:404}],&quot;broken&quot;:false,&quot;last_checked&quot;:{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-04-06 06:19:52&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:404},&quot;process&quot;:&quot;done&quot;},{&quot;id&quot;:15674,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http:\\\/\\\/armey.house.gov&quot;,&quot;archived_href&quot;:&quot;https:\\\/\\\/web-wp.archive.org\\\/web\\\/20021202181451\\\/http:\\\/\\\/armey.house.gov:80\\\/&quot;,&quot;redirect_href&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;checks&quot;:[{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-03-13 21:17:47&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:404},{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-04-06 06:19:52&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:404}],&quot;broken&quot;:false,&quot;last_checked&quot;:{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-04-06 06:19:52&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:404},&quot;process&quot;:&quot;done&quot;},{&quot;id&quot;:15614,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http:\\\/\\\/www.whitehouse.gov\\\/deptofhomeland\\\/analysis&quot;,&quot;archived_href&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;redirect_href&quot;:&quot;https:\\\/\\\/www.whitehouse.gov\\\/deptofhomeland\\\/analysis&quot;,&quot;checks&quot;:[],&quot;broken&quot;:false,&quot;last_checked&quot;:null,&quot;process&quot;:&quot;done&quot;},{&quot;id&quot;:15675,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http:\\\/\\\/www.wired.com\\\/news\\\/privacy\\\/0,1848,56234,00.html&quot;,&quot;archived_href&quot;:&quot;https:\\\/\\\/web-wp.archive.org\\\/web\\\/20080821213110\\\/http:\\\/\\\/wired.com\\\/news\\\/privacy\\\/0,1848,56234,00.html&quot;,&quot;redirect_href&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;checks&quot;:[{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-03-13 21:17:49&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:404},{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-04-06 06:19:53&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:404}],&quot;broken&quot;:false,&quot;last_checked&quot;:{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-04-06 06:19:53&quot;,&quot;http_code&quot;:404},&quot;process&quot;:&quot;done&quot;},{&quot;id&quot;:15460,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http:\\\/\\\/www.darpa.mil\\\/iao\\\/TIASystems.htm&quot;,&quot;archived_href&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;redirect_href&quot;:&quot;https:\\\/\\\/www.darpa.mil\\\/iao\\\/TIASystems.htm&quot;,&quot;checks&quot;:[],&quot;broken&quot;:false,&quot;last_checked&quot;:null,&quot;process&quot;:&quot;done&quot;}]'><\/div>\n<p>I don&#8217;t have the posts available at the moment to reference (I&#8217;m still in the process of resurrecting all my posts from April through August of this year after my <a href=\"https:\/\/michaelhans.com\/eclecticism\/2002\/08\/rebuilding_from.html\" title=\"Rebuilding from scratch\">webserver crashed<\/a>), but if you&#8217;ve been checking in on me for a bit, you may remember my being up in arms about <a href=\"http:\/\/216.239.33.100\/search?q=cache:XfkktO9iLaEC:www.citizencorps.gov\/tips.html+Operation+TIPS&amp;hl=en&amp;ie=UTF-8\" title=\"Google cache of the TIPS website\">Operation TIPS<\/a>. In essence, this was a to be a government-sponsored system for US citizens to snitch on each other, calling on postal workers, utility workers, and anyone who volunteered to &#8220;turn in&#8221; people they suspected of &#8220;suspicious activity&#8221;. Ick.<\/p>\n<p>Well, according to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wired.com\/news\/politics\/0,1283,56701,00.html\" title=\"Feds' spying plan fades to black\">Wired news today<\/a>, one of the upsides to the recently passed &#8216;Homeland Security Act&#8217; was the nixing of the TIPS program.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\n  A controversial government initiative to recruit Americans to spy on each other in an attempt to prevent terrorist attacks was quietly killed with the passage of the Homeland Security Act.<\/p>\n<p>  Caught in a hail of criticism, the Justice Department decided not to engage mail or utility workers in the program. Officials then <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thememoryhole.org\/policestate\/tips-changes.htm\" title=\"Website for Operation TIPS quietly changes\">toned down<\/a> the TIPS website, deleting references to the one million snoops and excising the exhortation to &#8220;Volunteer now!&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>  In July, House Majority Leader <a href=\"http:\/\/armey.house.gov\/\" title=\"Congressman Dick Armey's Home Page\">Dick Armey<\/a> (R-Texas), introduced legislation to ban TIPS (Sec. 880). The bill also prevented the Justice Department from using the Homeland Security Act as a launch pad to create a National ID system (Sec. 1514), and to create a Privacy Officer (Sec. 222).<\/p>\n<p>  &#8220;Mr. Armey was adamant about keeping those provisions in the bill,&#8221; said Richard Diamond, a spokesman for Armey, who recently retired after 18 years in Congress. &#8220;He felt the programs were not consistent with free society.&#8221;\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Kudos to Mr. Armey for standing up for the freedoms of his constituents \u2014 I have to wonder of that was doubly galling for Pres. Bush, as Mr. Armey was representing Bush&#8217;s home state! A pity he recently retired, but at least he got some good work in before he stepped down.<\/p>\n<p>On the &#8220;lose some&#8221; side of the equation, however, we&#8217;ve still got the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.whitehouse.gov\/deptofhomeland\/analysis\/\" title=\"Analysis for the Homeland Security Act of 2002\">Homeland Security Act<\/a> itself to cope with, full of goodies like provisions allowing ISPs to turn over customer&#8217;s e-mail records <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wired.com\/news\/privacy\/0,1848,56234,00.html\" title=\"Stage set for Homeland act\">without a warrant<\/a>, and of course, Mr. Poindexter&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.darpa.mil\/iao\/TIASystems.htm\" title=\"TIA Systems\">Total Information Awareness System<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Wheeeeeee.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A controversial government initiative to recruit Americans to spy on each other in an attempt to prevent terrorist attacks was quietly killed with the passage of the Homeland Security Act.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[2042],"tags":[14],"class_list":["post-794","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-politics","tag-politics"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/michaelhans.com\/eclecticism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/794","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/michaelhans.com\/eclecticism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/michaelhans.com\/eclecticism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/michaelhans.com\/eclecticism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/michaelhans.com\/eclecticism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=794"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/michaelhans.com\/eclecticism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/794\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/michaelhans.com\/eclecticism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=794"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/michaelhans.com\/eclecticism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=794"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/michaelhans.com\/eclecticism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=794"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}