Dean/Clark?

This entry was published at least two years ago (originally posted on September 26, 2003). Since that time the information may have become outdated or my beliefs may have changed (in general, assume a more open and liberal current viewpoint). A fuller disclaimer is available.

Yesterday Dad asked for thoughts on possibilities of a Dean/Clark (or Clark/Dean) ticket. I deferred answering right away so that I could bounce it around in the back of my head for a bit.

Well, after letting it bounce around for the past day, I have to say that my only thought right now is that I haven’t got a clue. At this point, I really don’t know all that much about Wesley Clark. I know that he’s well respected by many people, which seems to cross party bounds, after having a strong military career. He apparently had strong ties to the Republican party in the past, and has recently crossed party lines to toss his hat in with the Democrats. It appears that his entrance into the Democratic nomination ring was predicated not so much by wishes of his own (at least at first), but by a grass-roots campaign from his supporters (and apparently he’s now looking to disband those grassroots weblogs, which may be a mistake, if he ticks off the very people that started giving momentum to his campaign before it ever even existed). Apparently during yesterday’s Democratic debate, he said nothing, but said it with style.

He delayed his entrance into the Democratic field until the last possible moment, playing a big “will he or won’t he?” game. That doesn’t seem like a good idea strategically — while there were some people on the ‘net tracking his every step, the major media didn’t bother with him until just a day or two before his official announcement, which gave a lot of press time to the other nine contenders. Delaying his entrance also limited the amount of time he could use to raise money.

Essentially, as I look at it all together, Clark worries me. At least to me, he’s coming off as wishy-washy. He couldn’t decide whether he was Republican or Democrat. He couldn’t decide to run or not. He doesn’t seem to care about the organizations that started his roll towards the nomination race. Most worrying to me is that while he may have had a good military career, he’s not been a player in political fields at all. He strikes me as someone who’d make a very good cabinet member or advisor to the President on military matters, but not someone I’d be terribly thrilled to be voting into office — and that may go for a vice-presidential position as well as a presidential position.

Dean may not be perfect — his campaign’s current “5 million in 10 days” fundraising drive struck me as fairly ludicrous when I saw it (even with the fundraising skills they’ve demonstrated, that’s a lot of money in very little time, and if they don’t make their goal, then no matter how much money they do raise, it will be perceived as a “failure” because for the first time, Dean couldn’t meet or break a fundraising goal…they seem to be setting themselves up for bad press) — but I still believe that he’s by far the best choice, and the only candidate that really gets me excited. As I’ve said before, should he fail to get the nomination, I’ll support whichever Democratic candidate does land it — we need to get Bush out of office, and that’s the bottom line — but none of the others have really struck me as someone I could support as strongly.

Actually, I should amend that. I have liked a lot of what I’ve seen and heard from Carol Mosely-Braun. Unfortunately, I have to concede that I don’t think there’s any way she’d get elected were she to land the nomination — America’s still not about to elect a black woman president, unfortunately. The reports of how chummy she and Dean have been at various points did toss a fun (if completely unfeasible) scenario into my head, though.

Suppose that there’s more to Clark than I’m seeing right now. Bush’s numbers continue to drop, and after Dean picks up the Democratic nomination, he does choose Clark as his VP. America, sick of Bush’s presidency, sees the combination of Dean’s platform and Clark’s military skills and elects them to the White House. Once they’re in, Dean appoints Mosely-Braun to a fairly high-ranking and visible position in his cabinet. Over the next four years, America visibly starts to crawl out of the hole that the Bush administration has dug for us — jobs come back, international relations start improving, etc. As 2008 approaches, it’s clear that we are in a far stronger position that we were in 2003, thanks to the Dean/Clark administration, and it becomes nigh-impossible for any Republican contender to have a realistic chance at getting back into the White House. Suddenly, Clark decides that politics isn’t for him after all, steps down from his VP position — and Dean announces Mosley-Braun as his VP for the 2008 election. He might take a bit of a hit in votes from the ~~more inbred~~ less forward-thinking voters, but if his first term had been strong enough, it might be enough for us to suddenly have a black female Vice President in 2008.

Okay, it’s a pipe dream. But I have to admit, it’s a pipe dream I like.

5 thoughts on “Dean/Clark?”

  1. Wudi provided a great start and I agree with him almost 100%.

    Continuing with the difference between Dean and Clark, While their views on the issues may seem to be the same, there is a fundamental difference in their thought process and problem solving.

    Dean
    Because of his medical background takes a clinical approach, Bring in the data, review the data and make a decision. Statements he makes support my thoughts on this.

    “You can’t change my opinion with polls, if you want me to change my opinion show me facts”

    “If the facts support it I have no problem changing my stance”

    Clark
    Because of his military background is a tactician. He seeks the tactical advantage.
    His announcing of his presidency was “timed” to overshadow another person’s announcement. (I believe Kerry’s but I’m not sure)

    I think tacticians make great Generals but I’m less inclined to put one in the White House. Also I’m somewhat bothered that Clark, appears to be being “groomed” by President and Senator Clinton.

    One case in point; A reporter asked Clark a question (on camera) Clark pulled out a cell phone and made a call and asked “Should I answer this question?” He hung up the phone and turned to the reporter and said. “ I have no comment at this time”
    Sorry Clark, that bothered me….A LOT.
    Who did you call and why can’t you answer for yourself?

    Having said that I would support Clark if he gets the nomination.

    Anybody but Bush isn’t my slogan, Its my mission in life.

  2. One more thing, IF (very big if) they can work together the pairing up of a Clinical and Tactical mindset for problem solving is almost unstoppable. Its hard to beat solid facts and great tactics.

  3. I’m surprised that so many people can’t see through Clark’s bid! Last year he was praising Bush, Cheney, &
    Rummy and now he’s completely changed his tune. Dean on the other hand has worked EXTREMELY hard to gain
    the support of Americans and wasn’t simply tapped by the DNC. Dean needs to address this attempt to
    take away everything he’s accomplished!!!

  4. I had kind of hoped to see a Dean/Clark ticket, but now that Clark is running that is looking a lot less likely. There is a part of me that would like to see Dean, if he gets the nomination, pick a minority or a woman or someone Jewish as his running mate (not Lieberman!), but the first priority has to be finding someone who will increase Dean’s chances of getting elected. I really like Rep. Harold Ford (D-TN), and I think he would help galvanize the black vote without alienating a lot of whites (he is very respected by people on both sides of the aisle and of all different colors in the House and in his district) and therefore make some Southern states competitive. Unfortunately, I think he is too young, unless the qualifications are different for Vice President than President. Other potential names that have been thrown that I like are Bill Richardson, the new governor of New Mexico, and Senator Mary Landrieu of Louisiana. I thought of a few other people who might be good, but unfortunately I can’t remember them right now.

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