MSN Spaces launches

This entry was published at least two years ago (originally posted on December 1, 2004). Since that time the information may have become outdated or my beliefs may have changed (in general, assume a more open and liberal current viewpoint). A fuller disclaimer is available.

Microsoft finally makes their long-rumored debut into the weblogging service arena with MSN Spaces. I got curious, and it’s free, so I went ahead and signed up for a Space of my own to try it out. I have no intentions of moving over…I just wanted to kick the tires a bit, so to speak.

My MSN Spaces site

Signup is pretty easy, as long as you have a MS Passport (I didn’t…but now I do). So far, it seems to be a fairly decent option for beginning bloggers — it’s free, there are a decent number of design templates (though there’s only so much customization you can do, much like the entry-level TypePad system), you can choose whether or not to syndicate your blog (with RSS 2.0 only), comments and Trackback are both supported (interestingly, Trackback has three options: disable, accept from everywhere, and accept only from other MSN Space weblogs, with the last option being the default [and I don’t seem to be able to switch it off of the default so that I can allow Trackback pings from everyone]), there are a few default categories and custom categories can be added…all the basics, and some frills.

MSN Spaces apparently ties in tightly with both MSN Messenger and MS Outlook (though I can’t play with that, being a Mac user), and as such, adds a special privacy option that can restrict visibility of your weblog to only people on your MSN Messenger Allow list, along with an option to only allow selected contacts in your MSN Address Book to see your blog.

secure.spaces.msn.com

There are settings for moblogging (blogging via cell phone) — amusingly, though, when I first clicked on the “Mobile” settings tab, I got an “unknown authority” error dialog. Not having a cell phone, there’s not much here I can play with.

You get 10 MB of storage, with no indication if there’s a way to increase this (or if there will be a way in the future). That should be fine for a good amount of text, but enough photos will eventually eat into that, so there’s a simple file manager to allow you to delete any photos you’ve uploaded.

Finally, there are some simple statistics available, showing total page views, views this week, today, and in the last hour, along with a referrer list (no idea how extensive the referrer list is, as I’ve got all of three hits so far while poking around with things).

So far, so good — it looks like a decent entry-level weblogging service.

One thing did catch my eye, though, and it could be a big one: apparently, posts have to be written with paragraph tags (\<p> and \</p>) or linebreak tags (\
), otherwise your text gets all smooshed together into a single paragraph. I was surprised enough that this would be the default behavior after I posted my first test post, but looking through the interface, I can’t see an option to turn on any sort of automatic linebreak conversion that would allow someone to type normally and actually get paragraphs. I can see this causing some serious headaches from HTML-ignorant newcomers who expect to see paragraphs and instead get huge blocks of unseparated text!

(Caveat: I am looking at this via Safari on my Mac, so it’s entirely possible that this actually works correctly with IE/Win — though if that’s the case, that’s another strike against the system, in my view.)

There is a note on the bottom of the posting screen that “Some HTML tags may be removed from your entry for security and formatting reasons” — unfortunately, they don’t list which tags may be removed. And what’s this “may” bit? Are they or aren’t they? Will the list of which tags get removed change from time to time, and if so, why? Odd.

Clicking the “Trackback” link takes you to the comment entry form, and I can’t find a Trackback link to send a ping to. I can’t find a Trackback address in the source code, either, and auto-discovery from the MT QuickPost interface isn’t coming up with anything either. Perhaps that’s due to not being able to set the global Trackback acceptance flag?

Permalinks are ugly — for instance, the permalink for my first test post is http://spaces.msn.com/members/michaelhanscom/Blog/cns!1plKnLKPq0gBtnAfWaupqTNA!106.entry. Ouch.

Source code is also ugly (though honestly, that’s exactly what I expected). Heavily table-based, lots of crud and cruft. Running it through the W3C validator returns 193 errors, and that’s after the validator displays a big warning that no Doctype was found so it’s guessing 4.01 Transitional.

End result: it’ll keep newbies and MS fans happy (assuming that that bit with requiring paragraph or linebreak tags is fixed), but power users and web standards geeks (who are probably not the target market anyway) will definitely want to look somewhere else.

(via Scoble)

iTunesMaking Plans for Nigel” by XTC from the album Rock and Wave Vol. 1 (1979, 4:10).

4 thoughts on “MSN Spaces launches”

  1. I suspect you’re right – this will appeal to the MSN types much the way IM first appealed to the AOL types. I’m not altogether that positive that there will be long-lasting blogs on MSN – just as I’m not that sure there will be long-lasting blogs on Blogger or any of the other “free” services. Somehow it seems mildly intuitive that a serious blogger and/or journal-ist would invest in a more permanent relationship with an ISP. Much the same way I sort of discount folks with hotmail accounts as not really being all that serious about email. Having a number of friends who’ve gone from AOL to hotmail to yahoo and others adds a bit of fuel to this argument. It’s sort of like “if it’s free, can it be good enough to take seriously and therefore invest one’s time seriously into it?” Don’t know. It will take “blogging” to another level, though, much as the iPod and iTunes have taken MP3’s to the level beyond Napster/Kazaa. Altogether, I’d say (much as I HATE to) that MS has probably moved the world one notch further along the tech-evolutionary path with this.

    BTW, congrats recently on your blog’s longevity report – my own journal recently passed the one-year mark (nearly two million words, it’s a shame I started and then gave up on NaNoWriMo – maybe next year).

  2. As a long-time (one year plus) blogspot user, I have a slightly different perspective on this than Chas Redmond, above. I’ll grant that my blog isn’t feature-rich, doesn’t support categorization, etc., but in my view the content of a blog is more important than the format. (Of course, I could get demerits there too; how many times can someone post the word Chrostmas, anyway?)

    I did post a comment, and a question, in your third MSN Spaces entry.

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